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Effective communication. There is absolutely no guarantee that the Infinity Butterfly Blood Cancer Awareness T-Shirt Also,I will get this other party will ever effectively listen no matter how hard you try to express yourself. It’s a lot more than that, both can be expert communicators and still dead bedroom/marriage. It takes love and admiration of eachother, friendship, trust and other things too. And beyond that, not everyone has such a high sex drive. If sex is all that’s on his mind every day, i can only worry about whether he has a life outside of working and getting blue balled at home. Exactly my thoughts. So many of my straight friends are handling relationships like a fucking chess game where they must use elaborate tactics and strategies to “get her” to sleep with them. Bruh your partner is your greatest ally, treat her as a friend, not an opponent!

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I’m pretty sure it was originally posted to r-deadbedrooms, which is one of the Infinity Butterfly Blood Cancer Awareness T-Shirt Also,I will get this most insidiously toxic subreddits I’ve seen on this site. So I’m not surprised the comments were on his side. That said, I don’t think that using the spreadsheet to collect data is inherently bad, but the way that he went about sharing it with her was absolutely horrible. IIRC He sent it to her work email as she was boarding an international flight and then refused to answer the phone or her texts until she got back. I actually did make a similar spreadsheet in my second year of marriage because I was feeling incredibly insecure about our intimacy and felt like I was the only one instigating, but I talked to my wife about it before I started and it was a tool for continuing the conversation. As it turns out, we were having sex more frequently than I thought and she was initiating exactly half the time; it was just my insecurity that made it seem otherwise. I’m incredibly glad we did the spreadsheet because my brain is very data driven and seeing it laid out so black and white actually completely resolved the issue and I stopped worrying about it entirely. I think your approach is as healthy as you can get. Talk about and then document so it’s facts over feelings. Nice work
I don’t know how to say this without sounding attacky, but I think “facts over feelings” is not a great relationship idea. Agree on the Infinity Butterfly Blood Cancer Awareness T-Shirt Also,I will get this facts, yes, but feelings definitely should be the major contributor, ultimately. It depends. We were already discussing the feelings aspect fairly well but had a disconnect on the facts part. Frequency of sex and who was initiating were the points of contention, because I felt like we were having sex “not frequently enough” and she felt like we were having sex “fairly frequently.” I also felt like I was initiating most of the time and she disagreed. So the spreadsheet was great because it took the feelings out of that so that we could address both the actual frequency and the feelings about frequency. Turns out, the facts showed that we were having sex about 3 times, which was about as frequently as was feasible for us over an extended period of time. There were some bursts of more and some slightly longer droughts that coincided with life events, but the overall pace was good. But since I was focusing on the droughts, the bursts weren’t standing out in my memory as much so having the data was really helpful. We also tracked who initiated, with him/her/mutual being the three options, and it came out to roughly even thirds. But since I had been viewing the “mutuals” as me initiating, my feelings of “I’m initiating more” were valid but factually wrong

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Indeed. Thus it is good to get agreed upon facts. I agree with you about all that. And I agree that you handled your situation well. I’m just saying that “facts over feelings” isn’t a great relationship slogan, because once the Infinity Butterfly Blood Cancer Awareness T-Shirt Also,I will get this facts are agreed upon, the feelings are still critically important. For instance, Person A could present me with factual evidence that I don’t have sex with them as often as I believe, but that probably wouldn’t change my level of desire to have sex with them more often. And for sure it’s not going to make you want to have sex more often. but if it’s an agreed upon thing that having sex fairly frequently is what you both want and your perception is incorrect about how frequently you’re having sex, then it is good info to have that can inform your decision making going forward.
Wrong type of feelings, sorry for not conveying that better. If you feel something is wrong based on, well, feelings and reality is something different and it can be proved, then why wouldn’t you want to know? If I feel someone doesn’t flush the Infinity Butterfly Blood Cancer Awareness T-Shirt Also,I will get this toilet because it seems like I “always” encounter it in flushed, then talk about it and mark it down. If the behavior changes or it’s not as many times (not even close) as I felt, then I need to rethink. People exaggerate ALL the time on everything. Hehe. Nothing wrong with a perspective adjustment. I sympathize with both the husband and the wife in this case. Neither is good at communicating. She was definitely not communicating her real issue, expecting him to be a mind reader. It also appears to be a mismatch in libido. He didn’t communicate his needs either most likely just trying low effort propositions for sex, especially after getting rejected as much as he apparently did. If this looks anything like my situation was, the yes occurrences weren’t the only story. In an attempt to get my point across that something wasn’t right, I simply stopped propositioning for sex. What happened is more telling than this wife begrudgingly agreeing to intimacy. In my case once I stopped pursuing(and getting rejected) is that all sex stopped. She didn’t initiate intimacy once. Since relationships tend to follow patterns, I’m guessing if this wife was this reluctant when being propositioned, there is zero chance she was initiating on those times when it occured.
So from the Infinity Butterfly Blood Cancer Awareness T-Shirt Also,I will get this husbands perspective this is a crazy unhealthy power dynamic filled with rejection. It’s most likely making him angry and resentful, enough to catalog it. For the wife, she is clearly not happy either. Neither seems to want to actually talk about it so yes, I’d think divorce is a great alternative. To all the people that assume the husband is an incel and is not willing to help around the house, you are filling in an awful lot of context from your own mind. One might even say projecting. Realistically every relationship will have problems, especially with children, but whatever your issues are with your partner, neither approach is going to fix it. Leaving might. If this looks anything like my situation was, the yes occurrences weren’t the only story. In an attempt to get my point across that something wasn’t right, I simply stopped propositioning for sex. What happened is more telling than this wife begrudgingly agreeing to intimacy. In my case once I stopped pursuing(and getting rejected) is that all sex stopped. She didn’t initiate intimacy once. Since relationships tend to follow patterns, I’m guessing if this wife was this reluctant when being propositioned, there is zero chance she was initiating on those times when it occured. That’s pretty much exactly how my long term relationship went and ended. It is so hard to describe to people who haven’t been there. It can be extra hard because there’s rarely a moment, a thing that happened; it’s just one day you realize it’s been this way for a while and you gave up a long time ago.
While I think the Infinity Butterfly Blood Cancer Awareness T-Shirt Also,I will get this husband’s particular response was passive aggressive and childish… I get it. It’s soul sucking and it hurts so much, you lose your mind trying to figure out ways to communicate a need that the other person just does not comprehend because they don’t experience that need the same way. To everyone saying “just communicate,” you don’t understand that a lot of the time you have tried every means of communication. The other person simply does not comprehend it. Edit: I found a bunch of articles written about this and the OP on Reddit shows that this wasn’t a passive aggressive attempt to guilt her into sex. This was his rather aggressive breakup letter. Well said. The odds are often stacked. People sometimes agree that a dead bedroom is valid reason for leaving, but the rhetoric always brought up is “communicate”. Yet when communicated it often gets sidelined. And when data is gathered to reinforce the point, suddenly the party becomes the asshole
Expect down votes from both sides. As if there is a correct side in this issue. For the Infinity Butterfly Blood Cancer Awareness T-Shirt Also,I will get this husband people the wife is a horrible person. For the wife’s side the husband is an incel. Couldn’t it be they are both contributing their own shit and it gets progressively worse. It’s something that these people that say “all you have to do is communicate” will never get. Sometimes that is the hardest part. I saw the comments about, “still sore from last night” and “we had 20 min to spare!” And just thought, the poor woman would probably want sex more if it was actually more than a few min of him sticking his wiener in an unaroused, dry vagina. Do you think she might have been wondering why you suddenly lost interest in sex with her because you did a complete behaviour change? That was the point of the experiment, would she notice a change? She didn’t even notice until I confronted her after not having sex for months. I was numb at that point. She didn’t see any problem with how things were.
It was also not a new point of contention. We had discussed it prior and she was unwilling to even acknowledge there was an issue or if it was, it was entirely on my end. She was very good at shifting blame and invalidating my concerns. For instance, in the Infinity Butterfly Blood Cancer Awareness T-Shirt Also,I will get this war of the dueling libidos, the only valid one was her low libido. She didn’t feel that making any meaningful change was warranted and it’s was entirely up to me to change my attitude. She even went so far as to suggest that if I just didn’t attempt to come on to her she would be more aroused. Hence the experiment. I don’t have the right to force anyone to do anything like that. I never would but why is my position of wanting intimacy automatically wrong? I actually wasn’t the one that changed, we had a very vigorous love life in the beginning and I get that things change, but this was too much. The problem with people on here is from outside observers, they assume everything happens in a vacuum. I didn’t make a spreadsheet, but I get the frustration that happens when your concerns are minimized and you are told your pov is invalid.
You see this original post and the Infinity Butterfly Blood Cancer Awareness T-Shirt Also,I will get this wife said the husband never acted like this in their entire relationship. What is the more likely explanation, that he just spontaneously turned into a crazy incel or there was a buildup of resentment and stress over time that caused the outburst? Under that lense, does gathering data actually seem that crazy? Maybe he has a bad memory or wants to provide proof. Somebody said your partner is not your adversary… Oh sweet summer child, they fixed relationships. Sometimes, as evidenced by our divorce rate, your partner is indeed your adversary and is rarely one person’s fault. lol I was with you until that last paragraph, tf does your sexual orientation have to do with this? Such a weird ass comment to make. Like there aren’t plenty of healthy and toxic relationships on both ends of the spectrum?
Maybe this spreadsheet can be the Infinity Butterfly Blood Cancer Awareness T-Shirt Also,I will get this conversation starter? And it can serve to skip quite a few of the typical bullshit steps like “you are exaggerating, selfish, everything is fine, bla bla”? I think it shows commitment and patience. Yes, let’s all assume the same needs for everyone. That’s totally not how this situation arose in the first place. This is old topic that originated on Reddit like 7 years ago. He made the spreadsheet and emailed it to her and she posted it on Reddit and the responses were mostly in the husband’s corner. Somehow it’s making the rounds again. Yeah, the original post was a lot more revealing. The spreadsheet was less of a begging to get her to have sex and much more of a “fuck this, I’m out, and this is why.”
He sent that at the Infinity Butterfly Blood Cancer Awareness T-Shirt Also,I will get this beginning of her huge work trip and cut all contact with her. She was blindsided and upset, and the post was mostly people calling out that she had no reason to be shocked or surprised. This was probably part of the problem in their relationship. He had no empathy or awareness of appropriate context or what was going on with her, because he was too focused on his needs. Hence, him sending her this right before she boards a flight. He was probably like that when he approached her for sex too. IF I’m remembering correctly this sort of thing was widely suggested as a means of negotiating/communicating problems in people’s deadbedroom situation (before this actual post). IN FAIRNESS, it wasn’t meant to be a toxic thing more of an accounting of each time someone’s partner refused to communicate on something and find where the problems/compromises could be made. Then this thing got posted and pretty much stopped being suggested because its exactly what it looks like. An angry guy getting turned down for sex and REFUSING to acknowledge what his partner was saying and just sticking to the “i want sex nao” schtick. Memory of it all may or may not be accurate but I definitely know this sort of thing made its rounds through several subs.
The comments were on the Infinity Butterfly Blood Cancer Awareness T-Shirt Also,I will get this husbands side because she posted it to r-deadbedrooms, which is a super toxic subreddit That subreddit almost ended my relationship when I was struggling with insecurity. They act very welcoming to people who are having those issues, but the overwhelming amount of comments are “you are totally correct and in the right. Your partner is doing this maliciously to control you. This can’t be fixed because it’s a strictly biological issue of libido. Don’t bother trying to communicate with your partner because no matter what they say, if they wanted it to be different they would have already made those changes.” That subreddit actively encourages resentment against your partner and actively discourages good faith communication with your partner. I have read through it and from what I’ve seen at least people do encourage communication and couple’s therapy. There are definitely some that about it like you are saying, since they are projecting, but the reality is that by the time a lot of folks post there they’ve already tried all the usual routes of communicating and help to no avail. It’s a tough situation for both parties.
Sometimes the Infinity Butterfly Blood Cancer Awareness T-Shirt Also,I will get this advice really is, “doesn’t sound like they love you”, when the only information you hear is about how they don’t love you. Reddit isn’t therapy, “toxic” is actually hurting you, not offering anonymous advice to someone seeking anonymous advice lol. All the threads there end up sounding the same after a little while. At least from what I’ve seen, and in my own personal experience, the lack of intimacy is just a sign of other issues in the relationship. Potentially from both parties. But yes, obviously if people make decisions off of a random Reddit sub then they have other bigger issues haha The bigger problem is that the more active you are in the subreddit, the more time you spend hyper-focused on the problem instead of focusing on the rest of your life and working on a solution with your partner.
DB is full of people who are in unhappy relationships seeking support. This thread is full of people who make people unhappy in relationships. Being on that subreddit actively kept me from actively fixing the Infinity Butterfly Blood Cancer Awareness T-Shirt Also,I will get this issues. It’s an echo chamber that is far more focused on validation for unhappy people rather than providing support for them to become happier Showed this to my wife. Her response: “Yeah, the top reason? He keeps a spreadsheet of all the times she denied him sex.” I think it can be done in a beneficial way, but it requires way more open and honest communication than this couple had. Funny enough my ex and I had a small argument about this because i said i understood how he must feel like this was his only option. Fully agree, the passive aggression was the problem and not the spreadsheet. I actually made a spreadsheet about my wife and I’s sex life several years ago and it had a hugely positive impact for us, but we were both on board with it rather than it being a secret built out of resentment I think it’s one thing to keep a note of how often you have sex, but the way he added the reasoning each time implies that the reasoning has some sort of impact on this, when any reason for no is a good enough reason. It’s one thing to keep track of your potentially dead bedroom but the reasoning has no actual impact on it, so that’s why I find it hard to believe he has positive intentions with the spreadsheet with adding the reason she said no. I was trying to figure out what bothered me so much about this, and I think this is it. His notes that “we had 20 minutes” or “she said was trying to watch the movie but fell asleep right after” as if her reasons weren’t good enough is infuriating. She shouldn’t need a reason to not want sex, there usually isn’t a reason other than “I’m not in the mood” and from the spreadsheet he’s definitely not the person to accept that reason. Having an issue about the amount of sex is one thing, resenting your partner because you think they shouldn’t have a reason to say no is…
Oh wait, the Infinity Butterfly Blood Cancer Awareness T-Shirt Also,I will get this grounds for divorce in the tweet was the wife denying sex?! I thought it was for the dude keeping a log. Fuckin a. I mean the bedroom was dead prior to the spreadsheet. I left a relationship where we stopped having sex a few years back. It sucked for everyone and no one was having fun. If I was married idk what I’d do… I guess therapy then leave if you can’t figure out what’s up. If you look at it through that lens it’s a lot less “he’s an incel creep” and a lot more “they were a bad match and it’s good they divorced” Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, surely the husband started the spreadsheet at the first “no” instead of trying to talk after the 5th/10th “no” and getting back “you are imagining things”…
These are all the Infinity Butterfly Blood Cancer Awareness T-Shirt Also,I will get this reasons I don’t wanna have sex. I feel sweaty and gross. I feel full of food I’m tired. I’m doing something else relaxing Who is this dude? Tax Accountant? Sex needs to actually happen organically . You just can’t pull your pants down and say, ” Babe, time to get on the Pumper” A little romance goes a long way. There are a lot of ways it can play out. Romance isn’t the only one. Both sides of a marriage have needs and how those needs are fulfilled is a decision between them. Sometimes fulfilling the needs of a spouse is accepting when they say “no” though. …my wife and I send outlook invitations for sex. We both WFH and have a….very active sex life. It was just easier to align timing. And yes, we know how weird it is.
There has never been a time where I couldn’t get going for my husband within a couple of minutes. I wish he would be okay with outlook invites, we’re both busy people. I feel like neither of us initiate for regular sex as much as we both feed off each other’s energy and it just happens pretty frequently but I’ve definitely debated using a GCal event for the Infinity Butterfly Blood Cancer Awareness T-Shirt Also,I will get this sex that happens when trying to conceive. Like, this is not for fun, it’s a job. We have a limited window and some very important OKR’s to hit. This needs to be a meeting and cannot be covered in an email. What metrics are you going to use to ensure you are tending on target? How do you minimize variance?! Honestly we started as kinda a joke, but it works really well. Knowing ahead of time gets all of your romancical thinking flowing and it’s very connected once you are there. Give it a try! Even jokingly…

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