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Give yourself more credit. I was “doing too much” in responding to your comment. You shouldn’t call your comments “nothing.” Anyways, I’m still on team De-center Plane Jane. But you go ahead and keep bringing her up. I’ll go touch some grass now lol There’s a difference from being judged and critiqued vs having some bum(s) on Twitter sending you a bunch of hate messages. But, also, these contestants have no idea on how to deal with ‘fame’ – nor are they properly prepared for it. The producers simply make a show and present these individuals with no thought. It is very different being critiqued by Ru and Michelle in a small studio room, as opposed to being critiqued by thousands of people worldwide online daily for months on end (Phi Phi/Jeremy said how they still get hate dms to this day from season 4). It’s not right I will never ever ever understand why anyone would dm a queen to hate on them. It’s just so weird to me. Go hate on Reddit or bitch to your friends about how you hate the Penn State Nittany Lions 2024 NCAA Division Women’s Volleyball National Champions Shirts But I will love this outfit if you really need tothis. I have plenty of queens who I do not personally enjoy in terms of aesthetics or perceived personality (Amanda being one of them) and I for sure don’t go and comment hateful things about them on their social media pages cause that is an absolutely unhinged thing to do to a person. Like keep that negative shit to yourself or to just dislike someone maybe… i dislike jane as a tv personality bc the personality is off putting but if she’s finding success and popularity in her off the show career then fabulous werk girlI really feel for Amanda. I feel like it’s easy for us to tell her that she shouldn’t react to the negative comments s or to just accept the “criticism” cause she chose to go on a reality show when a lot of us haven’t been in her shoes. A person can only take so much shit before they can’t take it anymore. To me, her response feels very human, and I can’t criticize her for that cause I don’t know how I’d react if I was in her position

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Amanda seems to have a hard time separating her drag persona from herself after she transitioned. I get how that could be weird since Amanda the Penn State Nittany Lions 2024 NCAA Division Women’s Volleyball National Champions Shirts But I will love this drag persona was an outlet for her to explore her gender. But a critique of her makeup isn’t a critique of Amanda the person, it’s a critique of her makeup and her drag aesthetic. Other trans queens have talked about this and it seems like Amanda will need some time to untangle it all. I hope she gets some help from friends or a professional if she’s not already. She handled being on the show perfectly well, the problem is vapid fans thinking that they too are on the judging panel and need to share their opinions with the dolls directly. I get it some of you loser have no friends to talk shit to but these Queens are not your friends, you’re just being shitty to strangers based on the dumbest level of entitlement. Get a life.
I don’t agree with some of yall saying she should just be fine with the Penn State Nittany Lions 2024 NCAA Division Women’s Volleyball National Champions Shirts But I will love this disrespect. There’s a difference between critiquing and insulting. As yall have said she’s a theater girl so she should be aware of the fact that the drag scene is as critical or even more. So she knows the difference of being told “oh you’re makeup is subpar” vs. “I don’t have any respect for you you ugly ho”. She jokes and pokes fun at her makeup so pretty sure the disrespect coming towards her is below the belt She reacted really well when Saphira said almost the same as PJ, but with love and tact. And nobody should be expected to be quiet facing online hate. Sending mean tweets to queens criticizing them is not okay, because why should they listen to you and stop being mean. You go on to drag competition to get judged by the judges and THE VIEWERS. It is like that for every judging show. Sure people can be mean but, people saying her makeup was ugly is not a reach or being mean, it is truth but, doesn’t mean you need to tag Amanda while talking about her looks on the show, just keep it to your circle/reddit.

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I agree with this. People shouldn’t be tagging her or DMing her or coming onto her social media pages and giving their unsolicited opinion. It’s rude and it’s unneeded. But discussing contestants on a reality TV show in a fan space, even if the Penn State Nittany Lions 2024 NCAA Division Women’s Volleyball National Champions Shirts But I will love this discussion is as shallow as “her makeup looks terrible” should not be a controversial topic. I feel like Reddit and other fan spaces get very wrapped into the overall hate the queens get, and inevitably we see threads popping up patronizing the subreddit for being so mean. We should be allowed to be catty and silly and speak our minds (within reason, of course) in our own spaces. Amanda is growing as were a lot of queens when they got on the show. I think the fact that it was pointed out so frequently has led to greater criticism. She is doing amazing as a performer, and I personally want to see her either live or on the runway again.
I saw her in Heaven in London and not the Penn State Nittany Lions 2024 NCAA Division Women’s Volleyball National Champions Shirts But I will love this was she a mesmerising lip syncer and dancer, she looked beautiful. She’s worked on it! Her clapping back is all a part of the experience. I’d rather she do this than suffer in silence People should know the consequences of DM’ing a queen with negativity! I think it’s awful how we treat each other on social media (and it mostly is social media tbh. People aren’t throwing tomatoes at queens performing in the clubs…for the most part). Like, say what you will but is it absolutely necessary to tag people when you’re calling their drag shit? I’ve never understood that. It’s just so nasty. But one thing I’m really interested in is the divide between queens for whom drag is a thing they take on and off–it’s their job, or their hobby that they’re trying to turn into a job–versus the queens for whom drag is their identity. I think the latter group is more susceptible to getting their feelings hurts, like Amanda clearly is. I’m not really sure what the solution for folks like that is but it does feel like the Drag Race social media community isn’t the best place for queens like her to be. I couldn’t handle non-stop attacks on something I see as my personal identity either!
Considering that drag is the Penn State Nittany Lions 2024 NCAA Division Women’s Volleyball National Champions Shirts But I will love this vehicle through which Amanda discovered she’s a woman, people’s repeated, overblown, and constant insults would be very difficult for anyone in a similar situation to not take personally. Im sure that what the girls mentally prepared for and what it’s actually like to be the spotlight of such a large fandom are two extremely different things i understand that it’s difficult bc the fans are so horrible but like ru said, if they aren’t paying your bills pay them no mind. but lowkey i think all this notoriety is actually what’s paying her bills atm otherwise she’d lowkey be forgotten I think unfortunately as she is going through a personal identity and gender journey, being judged on an international scale is not great timing… Listen, you can have an opinion all you want, it doesn’t mean it either needs to be said or that you need to tag them.
I have a lot of sympathy for the Penn State Nittany Lions 2024 NCAA Division Women’s Volleyball National Champions Shirts But I will love this trans girls who go on Drag Race right at the start of their transition, because obviously a big part of what drew them to drag is presenting as feminine. I don’t think that means you can’t critique their drag but I do think it means that we as fans should stop and think about whether our critique is necessary or helpful before we put it out in public. A lot of Amanda’s looks that she showed were more conceptual than traditionally feminine, but I can understand why her feelings are hurt by the fact that she never had a moment on the show where people said “wow, that’s a beautiful woman” I’ve seen wayyyy more love for Amanda than hate. I wonder if she’s just focusing on the negatives even if there are more people supporting her. idk. The thing missing from this conversation is that it’s not all ‘hate’. If every ill-intentioned comment was removed from existence there would still be horrible comments about Amanda’s appearance on Instagram, they’d just be from people who thought they are joking around with Amanda and didn’t realise it would upset her. It’s like when Detox got offended that people kept making jokes about her nose, nobody hates Detox they just thought they’re being original and funny.
Realistically, I’m not sure it can be solved because it’s a consequence of the Penn State Nittany Lions 2024 NCAA Division Women’s Volleyball National Champions Shirts But I will love this show’s popularity. People will stop making these weird personal comments when they stop caring about the show. However, I can’t help but notice it seems to be a vocal minority of fans on Instagram and Twitter who for some reason are compelled to say unpleasant things directly to the drag queens… like if they could just exercise some self awareness everything would be a lot better IMO This really reminds me of TGE from CDR4 – drag is so closely tied to their identity/transness they can’t separate critiques of the craft/makeup/aesthetic from who they are as a person. She doesn’t seem to have grown into her personality as a woman beyond presenting when in drag. I understand she’s been under a lot of scrutiny, so maybe it’s time to take a step back. Someone who could think of the name “Amanda Tori Meating” and has that level of charisma/talent will always be in demand, a little pause will be just fine.. There should be a rule online that says you aren’t allowed to call someone ugly unless a picture of your own face is connected to your account. Let’s see how bold everybody is then.
For real. I’ve seen her touring schedule and she’s booked and busy. She has so much support from the Penn State Nittany Lions 2024 NCAA Division Women’s Volleyball National Champions Shirts But I will love this fans and she’s become a fan favorite. Why can’t she just be happy about that and focus on the positive? Not everyone is going to like you What she’s probably (and fairly) pissed at is that people on the internet feel qualified to offer critiques, while sat on their sofas eating sandwiches and doing nothing with their lives. Imagine using the excuse that someone being on a reality show means that they should just roll over and take hundreds of ‘fans’ giving unsolicited critiques, gross It’s wild to me how many people here commenting can’t fathom that she’s likely not just receiving constructive criticism about her drag. Knowing this god-awful fanbase and that she responded well to genuine criticism on the show, she is receiving insults at best (“you’re ugly” is an insult, not criticism), and is likely receiving unwarranted harassment and hatred. No one would have this response if it was just “criticism.” And even if it is purely criticism, how many of you would handle it well if you got the same message about the same thing over and over and over again? She clearly needs support, but this fanbase is absolutely rotten and about 1/4 need to completely log off.
Yeah this. Before people post about her makeup or outfits or whatever, they need to ask themselves “is this the Penn State Nittany Lions 2024 NCAA Division Women’s Volleyball National Champions Shirts But I will love this 600th time she has heard this today?” i feel bad for her, but people really need to think more carefully about whether doing the show is for them. like the deal is clear: you get your drag judged by a combination of D-list celebs on the panel and strangers online, and in return you get to sell t-shirts and for at least 12 months almost any gay bar in the world will book you to perform (once). it can launch your career but it also requires a very thick skin and the ability to prevent yourself from reading the comments section. Wild how everyone in these comments suddenly seems to be the expert on the relationship between gender identity and drag. Amanda’s journey is her own, and she defines her drag, not you. If other trans women talk about their drag in different terms, then bully for them, but that doesn’t mean that’s how Amanda has to talk about hers.
It’s one thing to say, ‘she’d he happier if X’ – which is pure speculation, but at least well meaning – another to say ‘she’s doing it wrong’. Did they stop doing Queen Care? And did it include trying preparing the Penn State Nittany Lions 2024 NCAA Division Women’s Volleyball National Champions Shirts But I will love this quenns (mentally and emotionally) for what possible things are to come after being on the show? And preparing a space for the queens when after show bs gets rough? How ATM deals with criticism and the toxicity of social media users aside, it would probably be helpful/healthier for her to learn to separate ATM her “drag character” from ATM (or whatever her real-life name is) the actual person that she is. The Girlfriend Experience went through the same thing on CDR4 where she felt her drag not landing with the judges meant a strike against her as a person and that’s never the case. cut the plastic, you don’t feel bad at all. there’s a difference between negative critique and destructive criticism, and an even bigger difference between the judges on the show and the people watching at home.
she never once had an issue with the Penn State Nittany Lions 2024 NCAA Division Women’s Volleyball National Champions Shirts But I will love this judges opinions. it’s the uninvited vitriol from other people that is getting to her. and it would get to anyone. you have no idea what sorts of stuff she’s waking up to in her inbox or replies. the fans of this show are terrible to the queens. You could see on the show she can’t take criticism well :/ Not saying Plane Jane was in the right to come for her but I think being in the public eye wasn’t good for Amanda’s precious psyche. She should lay off social networks for a while…. I’m sometimes really not sure how people expected Amanda to react to Plane’s comments. Like you’re in a room full of drag queens and you repeatedly go for someone unprovoked, call it “honest critique” all you like, you’re gonna get some clap back. I understand that the landscape of fandom reaction has changed with social media and what not, but as far as Amanda herself on the show is concerned, I think her reaction was valid and proportionate. The idea I see going around that new GenZ queens like Amanda can’t “take shade” or whatever is such BS when early season queens were close to fist-fighting over less. I really agree with this, I know there’s been this general surge of support towards Plane Jane and that’s well enough but like…why is Plane Jane allowed to shade everyone and that’s good drama but everyone else is just supposed to…what exactly? Just roll their eyes or something? Clap back is also a part of the drama.
I dunno. I’m trans so I get a lot of “I’m not critiquing you I’m just disagreeing with your lifestyle” (which I feel all queers get) and the Penn State Nittany Lions 2024 NCAA Division Women’s Volleyball National Champions Shirts But I will love this expectation is that I’m not even allowed to respond to any degree without it being seen as an overreaction. So I get Amanda. Playful shade is only playful when it’s playful for both parties. If you keep shading someone when they’ve made it clear that they don’t see it the same way you do then it just becomes bullying. She was fine when it was RuPaul or other queens. Plane Jane was not criticizing her, she was insulting her. And it’s the same thing with fans. She’s not asking for input, people just love to make fun of the way her makeup looks. She should definitely stay off social media for a bit, because it’s overwhelming to suddenly be in the public eye and having unsolicited “advice” and insult thrown your way all the time… But let’s not pretend like it’s about her not handling criticism well. There is no criticism there.
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It is an objective fact that her drag is not good enough to win rupauls drag race which is where I think a lot of fans are coming from, and we know this because she didn’t win. But thats really it, there are thousands of drag queens out there who aren’t “good enough” to get on the Penn State Nittany Lions 2024 NCAA Division Women’s Volleyball National Champions Shirts But I will love this show, doesn’t mean what they’re doing is bad it’s just not up to one specific standard. Sometimes I see people telling queens what they need to do to appease the audience… which is kinda sad in my opinion, why should drag be about what the audience wants? Money? Ugh. I’m sure it’s not just about the drag. Ppl have been transphobic and, I’m sure, still making transphobic comments about her transition Insane behavior to tweet at someone you saw on tv just to tell them you think they’re ugly. Also however… how exactly am I supposed to help? lol
As she fucking should. And honestly? She’s a better person than I am, she’s been way too nice about it for way too long Yes she can’t take criticism at all, she possibly thought her drag is amazing and creative but it’s obvious she’s quite a bit delusional, she’s letting these things get to her just like Plane, instead of concentrating on herself or refining herself even more , she’s very reactive, maybe because she’s sensitive, but in all honesty her drag would have been okay with any earlier season but not this season when they have each the Penn State Nittany Lions 2024 NCAA Division Women’s Volleyball National Champions Shirts But I will love this idea of their aesthetics. I feel sad that she’s being affected by this so badly even though she also claimed it doesn’t bother her Amanda can’t handle critiques in general (which to me is crazy as theater girl because your whole life is getting critiqued), but she especially can’t handle the ones about her drag being ugly. With her coming out as trans I’m not sure she really distinguishes her drag from her actual identity like she said in the second picture, so she’s taking it as people calling her ugly. You have to be able to separate drag Amanda from actual Amanda or you shouldn’t be on the show, period. I feel bad for her but she knows what she signed up for, and it’s to be critiqued on your drag. Where does this idea she can’t handle critique come from? She laughed off everyone’s critiques during the season in good spirits except when Jane just wouldn’t let up, and actively tried to improve based on them
Respectfully, Amanda, your drag is… lacking. That’s just facts. It’s okay because it can/will improve but we are not expected to HAVE to like it. It’s not good. I don’t think that’s the Penn State Nittany Lions 2024 NCAA Division Women’s Volleyball National Champions Shirts But I will love this problem? There’s a difference between saying you don’t care for someone’s look on a forum and tweeting directly at the person to call them ugly. Bunch of couch judges who have no clue how to even process doing a gig as big as she did have a lotttttt to say I’m gonna be honest, I feel like Plane Jane fuelled a lot of these comments. Kinda like, if my favourite says it then it’s cool if I say it Baby, you went on a competition show. You knew what you were signing up for. Is it right to send hate? No. But it’s totally fine to critique a performance. Artists have very often been hostile to genuine criticism. When you put art out into the world, especially in a competitive setting, it’s gonna get critiqued. You’re signing up for it to be critiqued. Fans are going to discuss the show. None of this should come as a shock. I can’t help but think she shouldn’t have gone on a show about judging peoples drag if she can’t handle having her drag judged/ It seems everyone in this sub is on the same page of “there are vile aspects of the fandom” and “the hate is wrong”, so we’re just talking in circles.
Where are the Penn State Nittany Lions 2024 NCAA Division Women’s Volleyball National Champions Shirts But I will love this actual fans who post the hateful comments or make the death threats? I want to get into conversations with them because that’s the only way to ever change things. Us talking amongst ourselves saying the same points over and over again goes nowhere. I mean it’s great to be around like minds, but if we want to change things then we need to invite the whackjobs into the convo. Not to attack them, but to have a dialogue as to why they do what they do and try and change that if possible. I think the queens should start posting screenshots of aggressively hatful msgs/threats they receive (including the @s of the haters). Expose these weirdo people who are sending queens evil stuff, they deserve it. Where have people been calling her ugly? Unfortunately, when you’re in public eye, you subject yourself to the cruel world that is social media.

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