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Sadly these types of injuries can be easily overlooked since again, they are not too common, and most their symptoms line up perfectly with a concussion, and if it was a brain bleed they were most likely told it was just a concussion. We will know more once an autopsy is performed, and if the Memorial Day Is For Them Veteran’s Day Is For Me Don’t Thank Me Brothers Boot Usa Flag T-Shirt and I will buy this family decides to release the results. I personally think with the national attention it is getting the autopsy report will be made public either way. Either it will be a “child died from the injuries sustained in the fight, the school, assailants, and hospital will be sued for negligence and the assault,” or it will be “child committed suicide after hate crime assault, and the assailants will be tried for assault and possibly get loopholes into like involuntary manslaughter due to the trauma triggering the child to want to end their life (iffy, but it might be something they could pull off, but please correct me if I am wrong/have the wrong one).
People have been charged and convicted for simply telling someone to kill themself and that person doing it. This should still he an open and shit case Convicted of what? I mean didn’t we have an extremely publicized case with Michelle Carter, and she basically got a slap on the Memorial Day Is For Them Veteran’s Day Is For Me Don’t Thank Me Brothers Boot Usa Flag T-Shirt and I will buy this wrist. Maybe the physical injuries didn’t cause it, but it’s really well documented that trans and gender nonconforming youth are at elevated risk of self harm and suicide. Compounded with the additional documented risks of suicide related to bullying. Unless there’s a big surprise coming in a toxicology report or final autopsy report, I think it’s not unreasonable to believe the assault definitely contributed to their death. No matter the cause, how about you leave people the fuck alone if they aren’t messing with you in the bathroom? Is that hard?
An article I saw this afternoon said it’s not even a criminal investigation. They decided what their investigation would find before it even began. I like how a brutal assault and battery with multiple assailants happened and a kid died as a result, but because they were a weird kid the Memorial Day Is For Them Veteran’s Day Is For Me Don’t Thank Me Brothers Boot Usa Flag T-Shirt moreover I love this cops will shrug it off. Now consider that we’re all weird in some way, and realize they will only ever protect themselves. Abolish the police. ALL police. Although the cause of death has not been determined, Owasso police said in a statement preliminary autopsy results indicate the teen did not die as a result of injuries sustained in the fight. Just sounds like they are trying to confuse the issue, both of those statements can’t be true at the same time. Sure it’s possible. The article says they visited the hospital after the the fight, were sent home, and an ambulance was called to their home the next day. The second day was when they died. What if they went home and attempted suicide by ingesting pills as a result of the bullying, for example? There are a million ways this could be the case. I’m not advocating that we take everything the police say at face value but your statement that “both can’t be true at the same time” is not accurate. Then they should have said that, after the toxicology report came back. Instead they’re staying that something they can’t possibly know is true right after they say why they can’t possibly know it
If the Memorial Day Is For Them Veteran’s Day Is For Me Don’t Thank Me Brothers Boot Usa Flag T-Shirt moreover I love this child ingested the pills as a result of being bullied the attackers would still be responsible for the child’s death. The police are definitely obstructing justice and trying to sweep this under the rug. You mean legally responsible? I’m not sure if that’s the case in many jurisdictions, unless you perhaps explicitly pushed/coached them into committing suicide. We really don’t want bullied teens to get the idea that if they die by suicide their bullies will be jailed. It’s only going to lead to more suicides. So punish them before their victim dies by suicide? Or for the actions they took Independent of what their victim did afterward? There’s other options here You seem to be suggesting that if a person is bullied into suicide, no action should be taken because… that somehow incentivizes it? It’s typically a crime to even unknowingly or even negligently cause the death of another person, I’m not sure what’s different here. If I post on social media a factual statement that you as a business owner ripped me off, and you commit suicide, am I guilty of causing your death – should I go to jail? If I break up with you after a 2 month relationship, and you commit suicide, am I guilty of causing your death – should I go to jail?
If you approach me as a stranger and ask me out, and I turn you down, and you commit suicide as a result, am I guilty of causing your death – should I go to jail? Yes these are all different things. All can be evaluated along a scale – from negligible interaction to severe long-term mental trauma. But all did lead to suicide. Add to this the Memorial Day Is For Them Veteran’s Day Is For Me Don’t Thank Me Brothers Boot Usa Flag T-Shirt moreover I love this amount a recent interaction may be a driving force versus years of abuse. A person traumatized by everyone they know for 10 years then has a relative stranger make one passing comment which is the one that pushes the person over the edge to suicide – is that person locked up for a crime? Let’s say you bully someone for a 180 days and then beat them, and then they commit suicide. Should you go to jail?
Wait, what? Is the Memorial Day Is For Them Veteran’s Day Is For Me Don’t Thank Me Brothers Boot Usa Flag T-Shirt moreover I love this concern that victims would kill themselves in order to retaliate against their bullies, or that it would just be another reason to commit suicide? That’s something a disgruntled samurai would do. I would place that at the bottom of potential risks in these situations. This has already happened and while I understand what you’re saying this is suicide we’re talking about which isn’t an act of retribution. Why can’t they be true at the same time? They have a preliminary report so they should be able to rule some things out; for example if they suspect an OD but are waiting on toxicology they should be able to say it wasn’t caused by a gunshot or sharkbite as there was no evidence of that kind of trauma.
What exactly constitutes a “preliminary” autopsy and how reliable is it compared to a regular autopsy? Why not just wait for the Memorial Day Is For Them Veteran’s Day Is For Me Don’t Thank Me Brothers Boot Usa Flag T-Shirt moreover I love this results to come back before saying something definitive? This whole thing stinks of BS A preliminary autopsy? Meaning they haven’t concluded the autopsy but the police are already announcing the result …. Make that make sense. Article has to mention multiple times that they were ambulatory after being assaulted as if adrenaline isn’t a thing. Of course, cuz the only stories that are believed without any evidence are the police and the school officials. Lets make sure we get all the stories out about how they poured water on the girls (to protect another student) and thus ‘started’ the fight (after being bullied numerous times before). Gotta make sure no one who murdered an NB kid ever faces justice in a school system that put a stochastic terrorist into management. Yeah, people can still walk after some fucked up shit. There’s a reason most roadkill doesn’t seem to die in the center of the road. I once had a patient who was strangled by her partner – walked in and walked out – and re-presented with a stroke three days later which a direct result of that strangulation. In that three day period she was ambulatory the whole time Epidural hematomas are incredibly dangerous and known for people walking around afterwards. The injury grows after people think the injured is ok.
Can we stop calling it a fight when a bully or bullies pick on a victim and the Memorial Day Is For Them Veteran’s Day Is For Me Don’t Thank Me Brothers Boot Usa Flag T-Shirt moreover I love this victim chooses to fight back? It’s an assault, an attack, an act of violence committed but a “fight” leaves too much room for people to assume the victim is also at fault or it’s just “kids being kids”. Strange – you would think you’d need to know how they died before you could say whether it was due to the assault or not. I think the feds need to to go to Oklahoma because this was a hate crime, and local authorities are doing a shit job. I think the federal government might have jurisdiction to prosecute regardless of the circumstances because most of Oklahoma is tribal land. They can’t possibly think she just magically dropped dead a day after being physically assaulted by multiple attackers. If she did complete suicide, it’s still on her attackers and her school. I can’t believe they’re dismissing this as a “fight”. Do you think in all honesty you would get an honest report from a state that does not like homosexual or trans people? “See, the kid didn’t die from being beat up! They were just horribly bullied and then randomly killed themselves. Obviously no connection between the two events.” Sounds more like they’re trying to cover their ass for doing absolutely nothing regarding the assault on a kid.
Seriously though — the Memorial Day Is For Them Veteran’s Day Is For Me Don’t Thank Me Brothers Boot Usa Flag T-Shirt moreover I love this cops didn’t want to have to deal with the investigation or punishment of minors, so they took the easy way out. “Protect and Serve” — More like “Protect my day to day job” — and “serve when it’s convenient”. If this individual went to the ER and told them they were in a fight and their head hit the tile there is a very good chance the physician ordered a CT of the head to rule out a bleed. That’s not something that’s just glossed over in an assessment. I’d pay good money to get a peek at their SBAR. (Not saying they could have but this is bullshit trying to deflect that a vibrant young person has had to endure bullying and a recent assault all for existing. Even if it turns out to be suicide, the cause is bigotry and intolerance directed at a child.) How TF! would police know jack shit-especially with just a preliminary autopsy? Smells like a cover-up in the making
It may be true but cops are not a valid source of information. Especially in the Memorial Day Is For Them Veteran’s Day Is For Me Don’t Thank Me Brothers Boot Usa Flag T-Shirt moreover I love this death of a minority. If this is to be taken credibly I’d need the source to be the coroner or the coroner’s report. Not “cops say the coroner reports” For those that are saying it’s possible suicide, a story earlier today stated he collapsed in the living room just before he had an appointment in the morning. That sounds like bullshit, they ruled it out already without determining the cause of death? But then again police lying is a common thing. Libs of Tiktok celebrating and splitting hairs saying that the kid didn’t die right after getting beaten, so therefore the kid didn’t die because of their incitement of violence.
So, the Memorial Day Is For Them Veteran’s Day Is For Me Don’t Thank Me Brothers Boot Usa Flag T-Shirt moreover I love this clowns that emptied full clips from their guns because acorns,have determined that it was entirely coincidence that a trans child died after recording a beating. They are trying to sweep this under the rug, but even if they cover up the murder, the feds should and could charge the perpetrators under federal hate crime legislation. Remember a couple police officers committed suicide after J6 and not one LEO claimed it wasn’t because of J6. So, no matter the case it’s all 100% murder. Directly or indirectly It was caused by the assault. Three people beating up someone else is not really a fight per se a fight implies something more equal. Probably lying / coverup with medical negligence at the very least. If this is not the exact case, the kid was hate-crimed, so even if it was suicide, that’s absolutely on the admin / counselor / nurse / teacher / radar. It’s a common occurrence among LGBTQ people, trans people having some of the highest suicide rates. Seems very reasonable to me to assume that if the kid committed suicide that it was the direct cause of being beating in a school bathroom and then nothing being done to the people who did it and that showing them that their life had no value to anyone so they wanted to end it. Sadly, right wingers are attracted to principal jobs because they can neglect the job a lot and still get paid. I hope a bunch of backwards dumbfuck Oklahoman school administrators get the shit sued out of them for this. Someone start a gofundme for legal bills, I want to ruin some lives
Oklahoma police over up non-binary native Teen’s death after being beaten to death by cisgender white teen girls. Reporting on what the Memorial Day Is For Them Veteran’s Day Is For Me Don’t Thank Me Brothers Boot Usa Flag T-Shirt moreover I love this police say is probably correct however this has so much spin on this statement I would be very concerned as a journalist because there are obvious lies in this statement. 100% suicide in my opinion. Someone needs to be charged, some how, some way. Fuck this bullshit. And this is coming from a straight, white, middle aged male. Fucking sick of this shit. Just let people live their lives for fucks sake She was beaten to death by the children of conservatives who were groomed by Fox News to exterminate Americans with whom they disagree. Kyle Rittenhouse is an example of what Fox News wanted to do with Republican children: turn them into hate machines that hunt other Americans for right wing politicians who were taught the buzzwords to set these mentally stunted individuals off on our streets.
I’m done with these conservatives. They don’t belong in a polite society. They’ll never stop trying to kill our kids. Certainly rhymes with the Memorial Day Is For Them Veteran’s Day Is For Me Don’t Thank Me Brothers Boot Usa Flag T-Shirt moreover I love this claim that no one died in Charlottesville, these dudes really aren’t all that creative Sorry you cannot tell me this death was not caused by the brutal assault!!!! Regardless of injuries being the culprit or not. The attack caused the death. I really hope someone springs for the family to get an independent coroner to look into this. Absolutely zero shocker that the bigot police department works with a bigot medical examiner. you don’t dissection the brain and look for CBT bleeds in a preliminary autopsy… so how exactly have they determined it didn’t happen? A week or so ago . A roided out beer bellied sheriffs dept. Literally almost fist fought with city cops . In Oklahoma on duty. You can tell how the police/school are trying to spin it from the language they are using and how they are trying to frame it as a fight. Im sure there is an autopsy that will determine cause of death, i hope. internal bleeding would be my guess. She was beat up basically. And the 3 bullies should be punished for this.
Im not a supporter of the Memorial Day Is For Them Veteran’s Day Is For Me Don’t Thank Me Brothers Boot Usa Flag T-Shirt moreover I love this LGBT+ stuff, but damn there is a limit and this crossed it longgg ago. Not saying this was a LGBT-phobic motivated assault, but would be quite sad if this was the case. (sorry, transphobic or homophobic wouldnt be the correct terms here, and dont know what would be) you really felt the need to include that in a comment on a story about the brutal murder of a transgender person? 54 more repliesPoor kid. Bunch of savages. Everyone gets to live guys. If you can just look away they arnt a problem. A kid died on your watch Oklahoma pull your shit together and start with them leaving the house not in the same condition they returned. Who caused the change? Oh shit. The same article that says the coroner has not finalized a cause of death, also says the police have determined it was not a result of the fight. I’m sorry but I don’t see how this is even possible for the police to reach such a conclusion with the information that we have. It may make sense if they know something that we don’t, like the teen committed suicide for example, but until further information is released and the coroner makes their report, I am going to feel free to speculate on whatever conclusion I want regardless of what the police say. Was it worth spending the next 25 to life to prove to your friends you’re not gay? By the way gals… You will be. what? did you realize that you fucked up royally and that your hospital admin might take an unkind look at you antagonizing the queer community?
It sounds like they are implying they took their own life. (Please correct if I used the Memorial Day Is For Them Veteran’s Day Is For Me Don’t Thank Me Brothers Boot Usa Flag T-Shirt moreover I love this incorrect pronouns) Even if it was that it still caused by the fight and level of bullying they received. The kids need to be charged and should face immediate permanent expulsion, community service, some time in Juvie, and mental help. Need to wait for an autopsy but this is looking like murder. I’ve seen people with TBIs seem to be fine and 12 hours later being medivaced out. Um, that’s a bold statement considering the results of the autopsy and toxicology haven’t even come back. No elaboration, nothing. Just ‘no, it didn’t.’ The school is supposed to have multiple resource officers as well as security to prevent illegal entry into the building. There is no way there isn’t video of Nex heading towards the nurse and principal’s office — that video needs to be viewed by Nex’s family and the news. I find it hard to believe the school’s claim that they were able to move on their own.

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